CITAZIONE (Diogène @ 13/9/2022, 14:14)
J'ai lu ce qu' a dit Sandra sur le forum Klin à propos des dessins "empruntés" sans autorisation et tronqués de la signature de leur auteur, je l'ai fait avec google trad vu que je suis française et ne parle pas italien. Je ne parle pas non plus anglais, n'en déplaise à Australia qui pense que cette langue est universelle. J'ai pourtant lu clairement que Sandra n'a cité Gentillefille que parce que c'est sur son forum qu'on a posté son dessin et d'autres du forum Klin et pas en l'accusant elle d'avoir volé et posté quoi que ce soit. Elle a aussi dit que Gentillefille était une amie du forum italien amicicandy sans pour autant accuser ce forum d'être responsable de ce post. Est-ce un mensonge et une insulte de dire que Mallory Quinn alias Gentillefille alias Candylyna est une amie du forum qui a traduit certaines de ses histoires? Je ne vois rien de mal à cette info et c'est plutôt les personnes qui polémiquent et vont se précipiter pour rapporter des choses à leur façon sur le forum amicicandy qui montrent une légèreté évidente à accuser et dénigrer à tort et à travers. Je ne voulais pas me mêler de cela mais moi non plus je n'aime pas les menteurs et les accusateurs qui voient les vérités qui les arrangent.
Je finis juste pour dire à Lekili de ne plus poster de fanarts sans l'autorisation des auteurs en les prenant sur d'autres forums.
Hi there,
Well.. my apology as english is an universal language (more than italian or french etc anyway)- thats why i said so. I dont think google translator worked very well for you, diogene, im afraid..
1st of all--- sandra mentioned gentillefille as posting on amicicandy (now- please tell me what this has to do with this drawing. Why getting that forum involved in this matter? Nothing to do with it, correct me if im wrong. Only god knows or you guys, in fact).
2ndly - sandra clearly quoted on the klim forum, this morning- that "she was tired of seeing stuff, exclusive for the klin forum, taken and posted without signatures by "furbine che sfruttano Il lavoro degli altri"". You cannot deny this. Her following post also quoted:
on the french forum belonging to the french admin gentillefille (and here is where she, ---Unnecessarily---- quotes) "ASSOCIATED with "il praticello"( which we all know its amicicandyforum -again, what does amicicandy forum have to do with this design???! Nothing!)... that this drawing was posted there, without permission and having signature cut off ...
also, in another post here, this time, sandra reiterated that the drawing was taken & posted without permission, without credits, with the signature cut off etc. i told Sandra that, before saying anything, she should ensure this is true. When you only quote Gentillefille and her forum, you imply everything. That "she took and permitted" this violation to happen. Gentillefille/mallory is a person of great integrity, a prolific and brilliant writer and would have not let this happen. She had her stories taken without permissions and posted on the web in the past - so, she knows the frustration and anger this involves- and, if you guys check fanarts associated and posted along with her fictions/ she always quots authors.
At the end, it turns out gentillefille/mallory was not involved with this drawing whatsoever... .. and i suggested sandra, next time, to contact forum administrators before spitting fires... any reader, looking at what she wrote, understands that gentillefille is in the wrong.
Now, diogene. If you were in gentillefille's shoes, how would you have liked to deal with the aftermath? Readers on different forums thinking of you as a person with poor character- not cool, is it??
Sandra has, like every other authors, perfect right to see her works recognised and permission given before posting, but in the right manner.
I hope google translator will do a proper job translating correctly this time around for you, diogene.
By the way, i found sandra's very same design/drawing (identical features) however with @marquis.marquis as the signature. ... Difficult to understand which one is the real one.. maybe are both copies?... both nice...
and just to add: i always appreciated sandra, since i got to know her on the EFP forum few years back. Until now. Dont like people misleading others & lacking integrity. You have no integrity, you have and are nothing. My personal feelings.
Now- You are entitled to your opinion, as everyone else. But facts are facts. Take care
To Gentillefille/Mallory & the french audience, witness to this "drama": apologies for getting the truth straighten out but felt compelled to. Mallory is very dear to me & a misleading post can create unwanted anguish. Totally undeserved in this case.
Edited by Australia77 - 14/9/2022, 05:06